We suspect the following was written by an Anonymous member working from within the Church itself. Or perhaps even one who has recently "blown" and is just now finding the courage to speak out under the condition of anonymity. We also considered that it could be a false lead altogether, perhaps an attempt to flush out other opinion leaders and organizers:
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"What if the Scilons, like, identify some high-profile people, like stu or the enturb mods or whatever, and send them, like, free x-box 360's?!! All these people that put so much time into chanology might get distracted and the movement would be significantly weakened for the cost of a few thousand dollars!!! ther spendin so much more'n that on PIs noa.
I hope they dont read dis."
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Wow, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit. Downstatmuch yesterday?
If by scraping the bottom of the barrel you mean communicating with an Anon at 4am, then yea.
I really don't get your point, how does this make anonymous a hate group? As that guy said, it just means one anonymous member is a little paranoid and doesn't really think things through.
Anonymous is a hate group for numerous reasons:
Religious persecution
Internet Stalking
Harassment
Incitement of Hate
Death Threats
Trading Pedo-Toons
Porno and Violent Imagery Distributed to Kids
Hacking
Slander
Libel
Urinating on Churches
Arson
(this list is by no means complete)
Get a clue and then come back, k?
So the point of posting this was? That topic has nothing to do with any of your allegations. I'll address them individually however:
Religious persecution
As has been stated numerous times, anonymous is not against the beliefs of scientologists and encourages you to join an organisation that does not promote hatred, such as freezone. Even if you want to remain in scientology that's fine, we're going after the crimes of scientology, not its beliefs.
Internet Stalking
Sorry, you're wrong. The purpose of stalking is to intentionally cause fear in the target. If someone is afraid because their details are posted then its a regrettable side effect.
Harassment
In the legal sense or the personal sense? In the legal sense anonymous is not committing harassment, peaceful protests are sanctioned by free sociteties. In a personal sense then protests could seem harassing but if it didn't we wouldn't be doing our jobs. The purpose of a protest is to raise awareness of the crimes of scientology, something most scientologists don't want to happen, if this happens repeatedly I'm sure they do find it harassing. Sorry but that's what you get for being a member of a criminal organization. Maybe murderers should be allowed to not be harassed by the police by your reasoning.
Incitement of Hate
Again, only against an organization calling itself a church. Is it wrong to hate an organization that ruins so many lives?
Death Threats
As stated repeatedly. The cult has never provided any evidence it did not manufacture the videos and calls on the 'anonymous hate crimes' DVD. If there were death threats why isn't the FBI investigating it?
Trading Pedo-Toons
So some members are into that sort of thing. Some members are gay, some are straight, I think some are furries. Yes, you may find it unpleasant (I certainly do) but that's freedom for you.
Porno and Violent Imagery Distributed to Kids
If you are talking about ED there's a disclaimer warning about the contents before you can enter, anonymous is no more doing that than the real porn sites are.
Hacking
Yes, some anonymous members are hackers. Just try and post something through one of your sock puppet accounts on enturbulation about illegally hacking, you'll be domed within hours.
Slander
Sorry, I don't think it was anonymous members who sat outside Mark Bunkers house and called him a religious bigot.
Libel
Got to make this clear, the CCHR and religious freedom watch are not run by anonymous
Urinating on Churches
Anonymous does not hold sole distribution rights on masks. If someone robbed a bank wearing a Bill Clinton mask you wouldn't arrest the ex president.
Arson
Then why have no anonymous members been arrested for arson by the FBI? Seems like you'd report that sort of thing, unless you did it yourself and were worried you might be found out.
"Trading Pedo-Toons
So some members are into that sort of thing. Some members are gay, some are straight, I think some are furries. Yes, you may find it unpleasant (I certainly do) but that's freedom for you."
Your current level apathy is appaulling.
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Anonymous does not hold sole distribution rights on masks. If someone robbed a bank wearing a Bill Clinton mask you wouldn't arrest the ex president."
YOu can't UNANONYMIZE yourselves whenever you break laws. Your masks may conceal ugly, but they don't protect you from this little thing called "personal responsibility"....
What next? Should I distance myself from all anonymous members who are gay because I personally find the gay porn occasional posted repulsive?
That's precisely what happens when you break the law, you are isolated and tried on your own merits (or lack of). There are even people in the police force who have broken the law (I remember that many police officers were dismissed for accepting money from the cult in the UK) that doesn't mean the whole force is a corrupt organization that regularly takes bribes from criminal organizations who pretend to be religions.
If Anonymous really did do all these things, I want to see the police report.
lol, fallen for a troll.
O wow.
so all crimes with masks is done by Anonymous??
wow flawed logic is flawed.
So the people who follow ath around is an part both Anonymous and Scientology?
what is next Anonymous is planning to eat hot dogs and cheese burgers at a HATE picnic.
OMG they are a HATE GROUP
Never mind, I suck cocks. Anonymous is a hate group because they eat pizza. And we all know pizza is evil.
And yes, I hope this plot to undermine anonymous works... I'll get the RTC to start sending OSA and PI's to deal with SP's. Hopefully they'll use R2-45 like L. Ron Hubbard said to do!!
Once again, Tom Newton is some epic levels of fail.
Doesn't he realize the only people who read his shitty-ass blog are the people who post comments proving him wrong?
Maybe tis time to call it quits, Tommy-boy?
I am not anonymous.
I'm not a newfag, an oldfag, a raidfag or a scifag.
I've browsed the chan sites, but I've never posted. I don't have an account at ED. I am most certainly not a "hacker on steroids."
I am not a student. I have a full-time job. I have an apartment.
I am black. I am a woman. And no... I've never been raped and I'm not into loli :)
I have no personal ties to Scientology.
I'm just one of what I'm sure are many, many casual observers. More than I think either side knows. The world really IS watching, guys.
So when I tell you that this site and it's use of obvious scare tactics is a HUGE turn off for me, please believe I'm telling the truth.
If you go to an anonymous or enturb style website, they give you data. Places to find more data. Yes, they seem very paranoid. Yes, they do use a lot of allegorical evidence. But, they invite you to ask questions. They use video and quotes that can at least be debated and disproved.
All I've seen here and on other anti-anon sites are accusations that cannot be verified and personal attacks.
A lot of the stuff about being pedos and such is clearly the example of the author not having a sense of humor. Not that I find all of it funny, but it is harmless. Kids letting off steam. It is NOT proof of criminal intent.
I truly am interested in hearing both sides and deciding for myself, but the fact that I am using a proxy to post this should tell you a lot about how the anti-anon side is viewed by the general public.
It doesn't have to be that way.
Please give me more than a site that, I'm sorry, comes off as propaganda. Please be able to back it up with hard data.
Thank you for your time,
Cherie
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